Topic: For Bösendorfer will there be improvement with Pianoteq 6 .fxp ?

Version 6 of Pianoteq is even more enjoyable and playable than the previous version. (Even more on very good headphones).
This leaves us hope that piano models that are not "in the current catalog" can also (one day?) Benefit from this evolution.

Amateur pianist, I begin a (laborious) upgrade after a very long piano stop.
By comparing the different models of pianoteq and especially the .fxp files proposed, I realized (with Pianoteq Stage)
that the configuration "Bosendorfer Oscar Peterson" was the one whose stamp was the closest.
(Thanks to sskuk1 for this beautiful work under Pianoteq 5)
With the "standard" version of pianoteq 6, (for me in demonstration at the moment),
the configuration "Bosendorfer Imperial" - (always sskuk1) is still a little closer. (For classical type).
I do not have very good microphones for the recording of a real piano and I contented myself with a ZOOM H2 a little old (44k16bits) probably not very well placed.
The pianist being much worse than the pickups, I limited myself to a few chords in the low, medium and high
alternating - when mounting - between the 2 instruments. (48k24bits for Pianoteq).
After listening, the comparison recording on the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAiIWyJ … e=youtu.be   - unfortunately with a sound encoded in mp3),
I find Pianoteq "pleasant" with a clear sound, not at all artificial, in which we find in part a piano Bosendorfer,
but with very slightly shallower basses (more in direct listening than with the ZOOM H2 pickups despite 6 db compensation below 50hz)
a timbre less rich in harmonics in the medium and less crystalline in the treble.
The attacks are also somewhat less percussive in the medium and especially in the treble.
The absence of nuances of the pianist is perfect, but fortunately not the real piano, very detuned at the time of recording. (Of course a well played piece would be more representative).
There seems to be, however, a possible margin of progress with pianoteq 6 or 6.x? and / or in one of the pianoteq .fxp files 6 imaginable for a Bosendorfer grand.


Re: For Bösendorfer will there be improvement with Pianoteq 6 .fxp ?

Pianoteq 6.02 std versus Bösendorfer 200 - Test some chords V2

Test on some chords, to"try" to imitate a Bösendorfer 200 (1983) - piano now tuned - recorded with Zoom H2, Imitation with Pianoteq 6.02 standard, by modifying the preset .fxp ptq 5.2 "Bosendorfer Imperial" (base Blütner) + a more accentuated equalization in treble and deep bass in ptq 6.02. (I do not yet have sufficient mastery of the other parameters of Pianoteq to refine more this test.)
Link on youtube: https://youtu.be/zOp21hkO4Io
NB: A best quality image (explanations of context) can be found on: http://dl.free.fr/pYo3JCkBA
A flac file for better audio can be found on: http://dl.free.fr/nEQRllno4

Of course, the mics for the actual recording are badly placed and the lid closed (high level of sounds too high and sound too hard) Here the objective was to imitate this sound despite these defects.

(So is it for a better pianist on Bosendorfer 200 recording + midi file of the piece extract from the same pianist ...)
NB: The first passage starts with the real piano, then there is alternation.

Of course, the ideal would be to find a Bosendorfer .fxp updated for ptq6 or a new dedicated preset?


Re: For Bösendorfer will there be improvement with Pianoteq 6 .fxp ?

Imitation test of a Bösendorfer 200 piano of 2014 with Pianoteq 6.03 standard.
The reference recording for the Bösendorfer 200 piano comes from a Youtube video: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPjgFR_4b3s) with the pianist Derek Vann who tests this piano with an excerpt from Fantasy No .3 in D minor, K397 (WA Mozart). The midi file of this pianist does not exist, the file of another pianist (unknown) from the website: classicalmidi.co.uk has been used here.

Link for this test: https://youtu.be/e7FypP8xysI

In this "attempt" imitation of 04/11/2017, the preset .fxp (Pianoteq 5.2) "Bosendorfer Imperial" was used (preset based on the instrument "Blüthner model one"). This preset has subsequently been modified on 4 points: (1) volume reduction: -6db, (2) Modification of the velocity curve (to soften the sound), (3) use of the EQU3 equalizer twice (fx2 and fx3) to slightly increase the extreme bass, and more strongly the extreme treble (and high medium) to "try" to accentuate the timbre (and harmonics exceeding the 8th). The other powerful settings have not been used here (because still poorly controlled). The strength of Pianoteq is its "playability" which would ideally require the same pianist on both pianos. Whenever possible, a professional .fxp preset or a real Bösendorfer virtual instrument would be welcome.