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Topic: How far can an old lappie take you?

Acer aspire, 5920.  Not the fastest even when it was new, 2008.  It still goes well with the right settings, but Vista's all but toast now and has trouble achieving websites, let alone d/l stuff.
So I got firefox if I need to browse.
Generally it's dedicated to playing P'Teq 5.80.  I only need Asio for U to do this.

Downloaded 5.81, as you do.  But I can't start it up.  Since I want to upgrade to Standard soon, that's obviously stopping me.

Not being a technie, could anyone recommend either a fix, or a replacement??
PLEASE keep it simple!

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Have you considered a light Linux distro which takes minimal ressources? I personally never had any issues with Pianoteq being used with Linux.

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Pianoteq runs using at most two cores, so a dual core is not an issue.

It performs reasonably well on low end systems and for reference I ran it quite happily on a laptop with a Celeron N2840 (dual core).  If your Acer 5920 has something like a T7300 in it (the only model I could find, but some makers, notably HP, will reuse the laptop ID with completely different CPUs), then it has a passmark rating (CPU performance) about the same as my laptop.  My laptop had 2Gb of RAM originally and was upgraded to 4GB later, although this makes no difference to Pianoteq's performance).

I was running bog standard Linux Mint 17 (with the MATE desktop) on that laptop with no issues.

You can install (or just try) Linux Mint or Ubuntu easily from a USB Pen drive or DVD.  These distributions normally allow dual booting to an existing Window's partition.

I wouldn't expect to run more than Pianoteq on it (i.e. not another music app like a DAW at the same time), but it ought to be OK, certainly worth a try.

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Thanks, guys.  I wondered what Linux was.   
There were some DVDs and a memory stick on ebay, numerous T-shirts and a few mugs.  So much for Google responses these days!   I looked at Ubunto and it sounded complex to download, many different versions and applications so I didn't have a clue there but I'll persevere with that. Or Linux Mint.
Tomorrow . . . 
Ya gotta laugh; really dunno how I managed to get this far wi' computer stuff, but it's been fun and frustration  equally dispersed. 

My processor is a T5550 and it has !.83 Ghz; the performance index for Pianoteq seems well in excess of minimum. 
Never a problem playing with 48 poly which seems fine as long as I don't play "the Lark" by Balakirev with the pedal down.
I wish . . . . . .!

Last edited by peterws (06-04-2017 04:35)

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T5550 should for sure do it. I personally use Ubuntu Mate with Pianoteq, but it's only a matter of preference. Mint is also nice..., that part is a personal choice really. But don't go too much digging unconventional Linux distros, stick with the majors.

You might download Rufus (for windows) to create a bootable usb stick.

I think the first decision you will be having to take is if you want a dualboot (Windows and Linux) or only Linux in the eventuality that you decide to install Linux. If you have no other computer, then I guess you will be wanting dualboot.

Don't worry, there is nothing really that complex installing and having everything run ok (At least for the Linux part...).

Last edited by Lucy (06-04-2017 05:21)

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Thanks so much!  Sounds like a lot less hassle than buying a new 'puter.  I shall do this. 
Tomorrow . . . !

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Great suggestions, guys.  I was about to download this Rufus Bootable stick (I'll still get one) when I thought to d/l the latest (5.81 version onto my music recording stick from my main computer.  I pushed it into said lappie, and it worked. . . .Don't even need the stick poking out the side either.

Happy days!

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Hi peterws,

Microsoft is ending the support for Windows Vista on next April 11th. That means that critical vulnerabilities aren't going to be patched anymore.

I encourage you to install Linux (first, please, don't forget to backup your data).
If you aren't comfortable with it, talk to a friend or post your questions here on the forum.
If you have space available on your hard disk, you can install Linux alongside with Windows. The procedure is fairly simple. You can even try a Linux distribution without making any changes to your system (see live distros). I would also recommend one of the major ones (e.g., Ubuntu Mate is fantastic for new users).

More Happy Days!

Last edited by mfiadeiro (08-04-2017 15:19)

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I won't need windows if I use Linux; but I never use this computer on the internet anyway now.
So I need no antivirus, updates, word programmes . . . .just think how fast it'll be . . . .
But in case the old Vista bit renders new Pianoteq upgrades unplayable, then I guess Linux it is!

Thanks for all your help.  This should be fun.  or not!  smile

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W7 should also work pretty well on that, probably better than Vista ever did smile

Hard work and guts!

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If it isn't broken, you don't need to fix it.

Also, I proposed you Linux, because it was a free alternative to a legit upgrade from Vista (to more recent Windows). Windows 7 upgrades from Vista can be had for cheap though (with a remaining support to until beginning of 2020).

Since Pianoteq works ok now, you can wait and take the time to think about it. I don't adhere to Linux is better than Windows, in fact I use both OSes. It all depend on the situation.

Last edited by Lucy (10-04-2017 20:49)

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SOOOO  helpful, you lot!  I feel like an expert already.  Fired up to do this . . . .

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It seems to STILL be the case that every hardware speed increase gets eaten up by Windoze layered bloatware, so W10 on a new machine probably gives little actual performance increase over Vista on its then contemporary hardware.

Can we say "feature encumbered" ?

Anyway, Ubuntu and its derivatives released the April 2017 edition TODAY !
One of my faves is UbuntuStudio, the current version is 17.04  {Which reflects the year and month}
More than just Linux, it has some fun Video, photo, graphics, audio tools as well.
Not embedded, so they only use resources when they are run.

Go here; http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/ … y/release/
Burn it to a DVD, back up winoze if you have anything worthwhile on it.
Boot the DVD, shrink your windows partition, create a new one for Ubuntu - and follow the rest is essentially automatic.

You will find "look and feel" differences between this and Vista, but probably no greater than between Vista and W10.

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aandrmusic wrote:

It seems to STILL be the case that every hardware speed increase gets eaten up by Windoze layered bloatware, so W10 on a new machine probably gives little actual performance increase over Vista on its then contemporary hardware.

Totally wrong. Vista was abysmal.

Hard work and guts!

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I advice strongly against installing any other thing than an LTS version if you are going to be using Ubuntu Studio. Ubuntu Studio while is officially supported is not ''standard distro.'' The packages installed, given the number of them, require extra ressources in the maintenance and are prone to issues. Krita for instance was removed because of such issues. Also, if you predict installing other softwares, the software center is very (very, very) slow in comparaison to others.

Many don't like the idea of not having the liberty to chose individually what they want and don't want.

Also, I wouldn't ditch Windows this easily, Linux (in practical) isn't meant to replace Windows, and will never will. Some material support or softwares require a lot of ressources to just be maintained open source, or low budget. Also, when patents are necessary there is no alternatives.


Where possible substitute, that's where Linux shines... it is in the underground work, where it takes much less ressources... to then finalize it under Windows with minimal self imposed restrictions. The thing is to maximize productivity by using each where they are most efficient.

Also, there is considerable differences between Vista and on the other hand 7/10.

Last edited by Lucy (13-04-2017 23:24)

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Vista and Windows 7 were ok; 7 was better.  But I can't abide 10, it has 10 times the spyware on it.  I installed it on my desktop, but some stuff wasn't working right, so off it went!

Now, since I installed Pteq 5.8.1 and those antique freebies, that's gone belly up for the first time, too.  All settings gone crazy,  looks like a job for tomorrow . . . .heh ho said Roly . .

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Windows 7 should do the trick and the end of Microsoft support should be in 2020. For me, so far,  is the best OS made by Microsoft.

If you want to try Windows 10, I encourage you to try some free tutorials and software ( e.g. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 ; https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/) to help you to run windows 10 in a better privacy environment.

Have you tried a live Linux distro? you could get the feeling without making any changes to your system. Try it; you have nothing to lose except a few minutes.

Last edited by mfiadeiro (15-04-2017 12:29)